It's no secret that former President Donald Trump is angry with the outcome of the defamation suit brought forth by writer and columnist E. Jean Carroll — which saw her awarded $83.3 million directly out of his picket in punitive and other damages.
But Trump was angry long before the verdict came down — constantly referring to the trial as part of a "witch hunt" and slamming Carroll on social media at every opportunity he could get. It is even claime he threw a temper tantrum when his own lawyers invited Carroll's legal team to lunch one day, it has been revealed.
In an episode of the podcast George Conway Explains it All (to Sarah Longwell) on Thursday, Carroll's attorney Roberta Kaplan told Conway, who has been dubbed a longtime Trump critic, that she rejected the former president's request that everyone work through their lunch breaks one day.
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She had been taking Trump's deposition at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida for yet another case based in New York City that dealt with fraud, which has since been dismissed, and he insisted that they work through lunch, calling the deposition a "waste of time" in the legal proceedings he said were also a waste of time. When she declined Trump's not-so-generous offer to work through her lunch, Kaplan said she "could kind of see the wheel spinning in his brain. You could really almost see it."
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She told him that Trump's own attorneys, including firebrand lawyer Alina Habba, who had represented Trump in both of his cases out of New York City — the defamation suit and the civil fraud trial that alleges that he and the Trump Organization inflated his net worth to secure better loans and deals — had invited her to lunch and offered to provide her entire team with a lunch.
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Trump was furious — so much so that he allegedly "took the pile and he just threw it across the table and stormed out of the room," she said, referring to the stack of legal documents and papers in front of him. Moments later, he was screaming at Habba for daring to propose such a thing.
When the deposition had finally been taken, Kaplan detailed another weird interaction she had with the former president in which he said: "See you next Tuesday." She was perplexed, as they had a meeting Wednesday, not Tuesday, the next week, until someone explained to her that it was an acronym for the "C-word," which he had just indirectly called her. She said it was something "teenage boys would come up with."
The interview with Kaplan comes after she and attorney Shawn Crowley interviewed with MSNBC's Rachel Maddow alongside E. Jean Carroll herself last week, an interview in which Crowley called Trump a "petulant toddler" as all three described how he's not as scary as he seems on TV once you actually meet with him and see him in court. They compared him to animals that appear threatening but aren't.
Trump has maintained that he never raped Carroll, as she claimed he did in 1996 in a department store in New York City and fought tirelessly against her later defamation claims, but to no avail — she won the case and millions of dollars from him anyway.