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I'm an ex-general…Ukraine meatgrinder shows drones have changed war

16 May 2024 , 09:21
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KILLER drones have changed land warfare forever, but tanks will always remain king of the battlefield, a retired British general says.

Sir Richard Barrons argued the bloody battles in Ukraine have proved the power of unmanned aerial vessels (UAVs) but tanks are destined to adapt and head into an era of automation.

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General Barrons told The Sun's World at War show that drones have not sparked the end of tanks on the battlefieldCredit: The Sun
Both Ukrainian and Russian drones have been managing to wipe out scores of tanks and armoured vehicles
Both Ukrainian and Russian drones have been managing to wipe out scores of tanks and armoured vehiclesCredit: AFP
A Russian tank fires on Ukrainian positions at the frontline
A Russian tank fires on Ukrainian positions at the frontlineCredit: AP
He argued that tanks will get strong and more powerful to fend off the growing threat of kamikaze UAVs
He argued that tanks will get strong and more powerful to fend off the growing threat of kamikaze UAVsCredit: The Sun
FPV drones have become one of Kyiv's biggest success on the battlefield to make up for a lack of artillery
FPV drones have become one of Kyiv's biggest success on the battlefield to make up for a lack of artilleryCredit: Reuters

Speaking on The Sun's World at War, Barrons admired the new capabilities of drones and their armour-blitzing skills - but didn't give any credit to the arguments that tanks will vanish from the battlefield.

The former Joint Forces chief said: "If you're on a battlefield and people are dropping bombs on you, firing artillery at you, using machine guns and mines, you're going to want an armoured vehicle with tracks on it."

He questioned who would want to head into a fight without a big gun, effective sights and easy manoeuvrability over difficult terrain.

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However, Barrons noted that as drones change the course of land warfare, tanks too are being forced to adapt and quickly.

"We're going to see an evolution of armoured vehicles and very soon they will turn up with counter-drone capabilities on them. And it'll all balance again," he said.

Russian already appears to be rising to the challenge with haphazard edits after tanks were spotted hiding underneath armoured mobile sheds to fend off UAV attacks.

The tank is in a state of evolution

General Richard Barrons

Barrons spoke of the "significant effect" first-person-view (FPV) drones have had on the Ukrainian battlefield.

The cheap, kamikaze, tank-blitzing precision weapons have become one of Kyiv's biggest success stories since its military ran perilously short on munitions due to long-stalled Western weapons shipments.

And yet, the retired general noted that FPVs are "not as effective as they sometimes appear".

He said roughly only "1 in 10 drones makes it through the electronic interference".

Barrons also hit back at claims that the UK's Challenger 2 tanks sent to Ukraine had been disappointing at the front.

Instead, he argued that it was likely a case of "inexperienced" Ukrainian crews and difficult terrain.

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He conceded that Challenger 2s are old - "a 1990s vintage" - and were always likely to struggle against more modern equipment, but he warned change was coming.

"So the UK is buying the Challenger 3 so that will be more powerful.

"It'll have a different and better gun and upgraded armour and other systems that will protect it against drones. So we should recognise that the tank is in a state of evolution."

However, in the not too distant future, tanks will be automated and unmanned, Barrons said.

"I'd expect them to be lower, faster, cheaper. And of course, if it's a machine, it doesn't need to train like a human.

"So they'll be cheaper to buy, cheaper to operate. You won't care if you lose them."

The urgency is there because of Ukraine, he said, but "you've got to wait for the civil sector to crack it and then pass it across to the military."

The Challenger lets rip with a Hesh round which moulds to the surface of a target before detonating to cause extra destruction
The Challenger lets rip with a Hesh round which moulds to the surface of a target before detonating to cause extra destruction

For Ukraine, Barrons said what is needed is an "orchestra of raw fusion" was needed to bring together all the best qualities of tanks but also infantry and artillery and air capability.

"It's a blend of those things that makes you effective on the battlefield," he added.

It comes as Ukraine is currently facing down a major new Russian offensive in the Kharkiv region.

Vladimir Putin has massed more than half a million troops on the northeastern front in a bid to overpower Kyiv's stretched defences and battle-weary troops.

Ukraine is desperately trying to hold the line against Russia, which has a significant advantage in manpower and munitions and is pushing their advantage and seizing miles of ground.

The blitz, said to be the first stage of Russia’s summer offensive, is designed to stretch Ukraine’s already outnumbered defenders.

The US has rushed through military aid after news Ukraine's forces were on the retreat and President Volodymyr Zelensky had to postpone all his upcoming foreign trips.

Royal United Services Institute war expert Dr Jack Watling told The Sun that unless Ukraine could muster more troops its prospects were bleak as Russia had “significant numerical superiority”.

Moscow has claimed its forces have pushed deeper into the Kharkiv region and captured the symbolic town of Robotyne - one of the only prizes of Ukraine's muted summer counteroffensive.

Kyiv said the Russian push appeared to have run out of steam on Tuesday — but, in the face of Putin’s 500,000-strong force, warned that could change quickly.

Ukrainian troops have been struggling to hold back Russian advances in the northeast
Ukrainian troops have been struggling to hold back Russian advances in the northeast
A soldier of Ukrainie's 92nd brigade carries a suicide drone in the Kharkiv region
A soldier of Ukrainie's 92nd brigade carries a suicide drone in the Kharkiv regionCredit: AP
Ukrainian kamikaze drone destroys a Russian armoured vehicle last weekend
Ukrainian kamikaze drone destroys a Russian armoured vehicle last weekendCredit: Newsflash
Ukraine blitzing Russian tanks over the weekend in Kherson
Ukraine blitzing Russian tanks over the weekend in Kherson
POV footage as a FPV drone tails a £1million Russian T-72 tank before going in for the kill
POV footage as a FPV drone tails a £1million Russian T-72 tank before going in for the kill
The suicide UAV detonates as it smashes into the tank and tears it apart
The suicide UAV detonates as it smashes into the tank and tears it apart

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